Monday, December 2, 2024

Forever Not-Now

 















C.f. what Michaelangelo Matos called - in the dance music context - permaretro

13 comments:

Stylo said...

Why have The The got the second biggest badge? At least 4 of the acts on smaller badges are ones you'd assume would be more prominent. Do The The have some massive fanbase that I've never come across before?

Phil Knight said...

Was going to ask the same question. Why are PiL apparently at the bottom of the bill, below Theatre of Hate, UK Decay and The Motors? Have they followed the example of the Sex Pistols and kicked out Lydon?

This would have been a fairly poor line-up even when these bands were at their height. Only about five of these acts would have been genuinely worth seeing.

Phil Knight said...

Also wondering, apropos of nothing, why Martin Bramah and Marc Riley don't reform The Fall. Just for revenge on Smith. Do all the things that he banned them from doing (guitar solos etc.) when he ruled the band.

Phil Knight said...

"We always felt Mark was holding us back."

SIMON REYNOLDS said...

There is a band formed out of ex-Fall members currently treading the boards - House of All. Martin Bramah is in it, but not Marc Riley
https://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2023/02/01/house-of-all-the-fall-mark-e-smith-family-statement/

Ah they actually put out an album too https://houseofall.bandcamp.com/album/house-of-all

SIMON REYNOLDS said...

I think The The were quite big - had a bunch of hits. Never meant much to me.

Johnny Marr says he is as proud of his work with Matt Johnson as is he of his work with Morrissey

SIMON REYNOLDS said...

The one that caught my eye was "Death Cult". Is this really a reformation of the transitional band that briefly existed in between Southern Death Cult and The Cult?

SIMON REYNOLDS said...

But you are attending for the Mondays I assume?

SIMON REYNOLDS said...

Yeah it's none too enticing. The Motels. Peter Murphy. The Damned doing a specific latterday album.

And then there are the couple of badges that are barely legible but seem to be total no-marks

Ed said...

They performed as The Cult in Australia only a few days ago. And Death Cult didn’t even have enough songs for a full LP. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ed said...

And right on cue, here’s a tweet from today of the Reading festival lineup in 1993. The The were higher on the bill / on a bigger stage than the Banshees, Buttholes, Dinosaur Jr, Radiohead and Blur.

https://x.com/newwaveandpunk/status/1863679946087960775?s=46&t=B99yOMpNjtYkl7CXK4W2JA

Ed said...

…not to mention the Flaming Lips, Breeders, Stone Temple Pilots, Bad Brains, Pastels, Shampoo and Big Star!

Matthew McKinnon said...

The The have a very dedicated following in the UK. They won’t trouble the charts again but they have an active (keyword there) fanbase that probably far outstrips PIL - that buy every release, travel for gigs etc.

In terms of ‘history of rock’ legacy then no, they’re not on PiL’s level, but in terms of active followers - at least here in the UK - they’re way ahead.