Wednesday, July 12, 2023

"the essence of a seemingly essenceless moment"

Much discussed on the socials, a piece by Mitch Therieau for The Drift that fingers Jack Antonoff  - not so much an uber-producer as a ubi-producer, as in ubiquitous - as "pop music's blandest prophet".

People are picking away at it, as they will do, but I thought it was persuasive and full of great lines and sharp sonic analysis of Antonoff's twin modes of cinematic maximalism and quasi-intimate whispery minimalism

"It is like Springsteen’s Tunnel of Love on a histrionic sugar high — or like cutting into what you thought was Tunnel of Love, expecting to find a substantive work of pop craftsmanship and introspection, only to find cake. Unlike the Fun. records, Strange Desire deals in a strangely hollow maximalism. You might call it, as many critics have, “cinematic” pop. In other words: pop made to serve as a soundtrack. And at the center of the swirl of sound that often doesn’t register as music so much as undifferentiated yearning, there is an empty space for you, the main character. Appropriately enough, Antonoff’s fans often describe his music as a kind of catharsis machine; a soundtrack to which you can, in the words of one YouTube commenter, “drive and cry and vent and go trough every emotion humanly possible.” It is as if Antonoff discovered that the only way to keep pop-rock viable in conditions increasingly hostile to its survival was to reduce it down to a mechanism for delivering a concentrated shot of big feelings.....

"... a distinctive yet elusive sound whose hallmarks are less musical than emotional. Verses ratchet up sweatily to choruses rather than building organically or shading into them. Choruses are strenuous; the unbearable longing they often convey registers as nothing other than the indomitable drive to become a hit....

"... nearly collapsing under the sticky surplus of emotion.... "

On producers notorious for hostile and abusive work environments:

"... treating women artists in particular as interchangeable and disposable bearers of their hit-children" 

Spinning off discussion of "Out of the Woods" (a Jack + Taylor song whose appeal and resonance beyond its author I find particularly mystifying): 

"A Jack song always seems to take place in a sort of ambiently traumatic limbo where reconciliation is right around the corner, if not just out of reach..."

^^^^^^^^^^^

I suppose the bit where the argument loses me a little is the idea that Antonoff's career has something to do with the diffusion of indie-pop aesthetics into the mainstream. 

See, I can't really hear the indie-ness.  At least it doesn't correspond to what I think of as "indie" (I know, there's multiple strands; it's evolved over time;  indie in 2023 is different from indie in 2003 is different from indie in 1993 is different from 1983 etc etc). But if I think of indie from the perspective of one who saw it emerge - who can remember a rock world before indie even existed - indeed one who wrote about it during its emergence....  one of the defining things about indie is that it's not melodramatic. I associate it with the laconic, the low-key, the understated...  small voices and non-singers... a sense of the ordinary transfigured 

(I suppose there are exceptions... that line from Band of Holy Joy through to Tindersticks and Jack...  Pulp too. The Scott Walker loving thread. Nick Cave, also, with his love of "entertainment music, though some might call it corn" . But are any of them really "indie"?)

For the most part indie = constitutively anti-theatrical, naturalistic, mumblecore. 


7 comments:

Tyler said...

There was a vague and possibly unintended shift in the meaning of 'indie' where it stopped signifying any sound or scene in particular and started being a catch-all term for any music that wasn't mainstream - chart pop that didn't make the charts became 'indie-pop', folk that appeared at downtown spots became 'indie folk', etc. I think what the author is really reaching for here is emo, which is absolutely melodramatic and, being as it was in the hinterland between indie and mainstream, was perfectly situated to be one of the primary threads that connected both

Stylo said...

The indieness seems obvious to me for a very clear reason: it's linked to American indie, and therefore is as soft as shite and as shite as shite. British indie, because of the punk heritage and the fact that one can be both into music and football, has produced plenty of bands that favoured lyrical intricacy and melodious guitar whilst also offering the promise of a ruck (Stone Roses, Happy Mondays, Libertines and quintessentially Oasis). This is because there is no ideal anatomy for football: Maradona was a stocky 5'5". Unlike football, the big 4 American sports exclusively demand those who are stupidly tall, stupidly broad and able to fill the whole toilet bowl in one sitting. Your standard pasty American teen into indie simply has no avenue to get into sport, and as such seeks music that avoids all possibility of confrontation and instead luxuriates in the indulgence of a mildly tortured emotion. But this music will by definition be the most ballless, milquetoast dribble of sound you will forget the picosecond after your eardrums stopped reverberating.
The only sports I can tolerate are darts and snooker. I have no idea why BBC 1 AND 2 are both showing Wimbledon. Can't Wimbledon just fuck off to some dank channel in the high 500s and not disturb the channels people actually watch?

SIMON REYNOLDS said...


An unexpected angle of analysis - sports determinist!

"Fill the bowl in a single sitting" is a phrase that will linger with me.

You are probably right, there is starker divide between jocks and nerds in American high school - a huge gulf.

I don't remember there being as much of a sports or physique-related hierarchy at UK school, but then again I went to a boys-only public school so it might have been different in the state sector.

As I recall it, people who were good at sports were admired, but being the kind of kid who got picked last or second from last when the two teams were getting selected, didn't seem to consign you to a pariah-like lower caste.

One unexpected biographical quirk about Morrissey is that he was good at sports at school - I think football, possibly running too, I can't remember. This probably inoculated him from some persecution, that he wasn't a shrinking violet, a total weed.

Tennis is the only sport I retain any real feeling for, although I don't follow it anymore. Although I did love cricket as a boy - entertained dreams of playing in a test match, #3 in the batting order, the glamour spot. And I was obsessed with snooker for a year or two - watching the games on TV on a black-and-white set, trying to learn 'screw' on the miniature table at school.

But back to American versus UK indie.... there does seem to have come a point when 'indie' in American started to signify groups all gussied up with strings or other instruments, the guitar slipping away from being a central instrument or dominant sound. Did it start with Neutral Milk Hotel and all that lot?. I am thinking about The National and groups like that.

SIMON REYNOLDS said...

To Tyler's point - I just don't really think of emo as indie. It's too successful, for a start, and it's much more about putting on a good show, dynamic frontmen etc than indie-as-indie. I would file it under "modern rock", that nebulous category.

But I expect you are right that this is where the Antonoff 'main character' type epic drama pop thing is sourced

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